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	<title>Comments on: Online Church Part 5: Is Genuine Community Possible?</title>
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		<title>By: Christian Web Trends Top 10 posts of 2009 &#171; Christian Web Trends Blog by OurChurch.Com</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/12/15/online-church-part-5-is-genuine-community-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-192225</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Web Trends Top 10 posts of 2009 &#171; Christian Web Trends Blog by OurChurch.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 10 Things I Learned from the Online Church Blog Series &#171; Christian Web Trends Blog by OurChurch.Com</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/12/15/online-church-part-5-is-genuine-community-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-191597</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Things I Learned from the Online Church Blog Series &#171; Christian Web Trends Blog by OurChurch.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JimNordblom</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimNordblom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps considering the season, maybe       Tasting.  :) </description>
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		<title>By: Michael Koenig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Koenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Twitted by OurChurchDotCom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by OurChurchDotCom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: William Haller</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/12/15/online-church-part-5-is-genuine-community-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-190853</link>
		<dc:creator>William Haller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that this is potentially true. Have any accurate studies been done about the percentages of on-line church members 
 
a) that attend regularly? 
 
b) that read through (or listen to/watch depending on the delivery format) a complete on-line sermon regularly? 
 
c) that are paying attention solely to what is going on in the service? 
 
This is the key thing. 
 
If you get bored off-line, you&#039;re still sitting in the service till it&#039;s done. You may be fidgeting and if enough people are, the service may be shorter, but you&#039;re still there. The distraction and short attention span factor of on-line crowds would be difficult to overcome. 
 
Now that cell phones and other interactive devices or games are so prevalent, distractions are beginning to be a factor in off-line churches as well. There is still social pressure to someone playing a cell phone game or sending text messages in the pew beside you versus bringing up a game or splitting the browser window and researching another topic while an on-line sermon is on - even if you stick around for the entire presentation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that this is potentially true. Have any accurate studies been done about the percentages of on-line church members </p>
<p>a) that attend regularly? </p>
<p>b) that read through (or listen to/watch depending on the delivery format) a complete on-line sermon regularly? </p>
<p>c) that are paying attention solely to what is going on in the service? </p>
<p>This is the key thing. </p>
<p>If you get bored off-line, you&#39;re still sitting in the service till it&#39;s done. You may be fidgeting and if enough people are, the service may be shorter, but you&#39;re still there. The distraction and short attention span factor of on-line crowds would be difficult to overcome. </p>
<p>Now that cell phones and other interactive devices or games are so prevalent, distractions are beginning to be a factor in off-line churches as well. There is still social pressure to someone playing a cell phone game or sending text messages in the pew beside you versus bringing up a game or splitting the browser window and researching another topic while an on-line sermon is on &#8211; even if you stick around for the entire presentation.</p>
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		<title>By: William Haller</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Haller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate got too intense and I got a posting too quickly error. Sigh. That doesn&#039;t happen off-line either. 
 
Relationships can be real whether on or off-line. When any relationship is severed, there is real loss. I do think that it is easier to have misunderstandings on-line than off-line. It is also easier to reach out to people you would never otherwise see. So there are advantages and disadvantages. 
 
Relationships are what hold any body of people together through the good times and bad. I do feel that there is less commitment in an on-line setting than off. It is easier to check out. 
 
There are other aspects of community to consider. We just enjoyed an adult and kid&#039;s Christmas program. We went to several weddings this summer. On the flip side, how does an on-line community handle funerals? You can broadcast them on-line, but   there is still the need for a real facility. 
 
Let&#039;s see if I waited long enough. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate got too intense and I got a posting too quickly error. Sigh. That doesn&#039;t happen off-line either. </p>
<p>Relationships can be real whether on or off-line. When any relationship is severed, there is real loss. I do think that it is easier to have misunderstandings on-line than off-line. It is also easier to reach out to people you would never otherwise see. So there are advantages and disadvantages. </p>
<p>Relationships are what hold any body of people together through the good times and bad. I do feel that there is less commitment in an on-line setting than off. It is easier to check out. </p>
<p>There are other aspects of community to consider. We just enjoyed an adult and kid&#039;s Christmas program. We went to several weddings this summer. On the flip side, how does an on-line community handle funerals? You can broadcast them on-line, but   there is still the need for a real facility. </p>
<p>Let&#039;s see if I waited long enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the actual experience of saving two lives while online, so I do not think that the internet lacks intimacy.  I belong to churches in my community as well as being a member of virtual groups and do not feel any less loving of my internet connections as I do my internet relatives.  The secret is being Christ centered yourself and radiating His love whenever your format. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the actual experience of saving two lives while online, so I do not think that the internet lacks intimacy.  I belong to churches in my community as well as being a member of virtual groups and do not feel any less loving of my internet connections as I do my internet relatives.  The secret is being Christ centered yourself and radiating His love whenever your format.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSteinbrueck</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSteinbrueck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are great questions I don&#039;t have an answer for.  I share your concern about distractions though &amp; wrote about that in the post about worship and presence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are great questions I don&#039;t have an answer for.  I share your concern about distractions though &amp; wrote about that in the post about worship and presence.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSteinbrueck</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/12/15/online-church-part-5-is-genuine-community-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-190851</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulSteinbrueck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that people looking for an online church have more options and therefore probably can be more picky. But most people who live in an urban or suburban area have 100 or more Christian churches within a 10 mile radius to choose from. 
 
I think for the most part it&#039;s relationships that keep people at a offline church when things get tough or the church does something they don&#039;t agree with.  If they have good friends in the church they stick it out, if they don&#039;t they leave.  I would suspect it&#039;s not much different with an online church. 
 
Sounds like you doubt that people can form relationships online which are deep enough that terminating them would be a real emotional loss.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that people looking for an online church have more options and therefore probably can be more picky. But most people who live in an urban or suburban area have 100 or more Christian churches within a 10 mile radius to choose from. </p>
<p>I think for the most part it&#039;s relationships that keep people at a offline church when things get tough or the church does something they don&#039;t agree with.  If they have good friends in the church they stick it out, if they don&#039;t they leave.  I would suspect it&#039;s not much different with an online church. </p>
<p>Sounds like you doubt that people can form relationships online which are deep enough that terminating them would be a real emotional loss.</p>
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