Comments on: Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining Influence http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/ A look at how trends in communication technology impact individuals and organizations. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:59:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: How to Grow Your Church (The Willow Creek / Purpose Driven Way) http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-477667 How to Grow Your Church (The Willow Creek / Purpose Driven Way) Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:17:48 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-477667 [...] = ''; } Is the Church Relevant? It is a Matter of PerspectiveHomework: Renovate or DieEMMSY STUFFWhy Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining... var topsy_style = 'big'; var topsy_nick = ''; var topsy_order = 'count,badge,retweet'; var [...] [...] = ''; } Is the Church Relevant? It is a Matter of PerspectiveHomework: Renovate or DieEMMSY STUFFWhy Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining… var topsy_style = 'big'; var topsy_nick = ''; var topsy_order = 'count,badge,retweet'; var [...]

]]> By: How Willow Creek Has Embraced Social Media for Global Leadership Summit #wcagls | Christian Web Trends Blog http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-382750 How Willow Creek Has Embraced Social Media for Global Leadership Summit #wcagls | Christian Web Trends Blog Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:01:51 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-382750 [...] Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining... [...] [...] Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining… [...]

]]> By: The Elusiveness of Measuring Online Influence and Effectiveness | Church Mag http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-351864 The Elusiveness of Measuring Online Influence and Effectiveness | Church Mag Mon, 16 May 2011 10:44:08 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-351864 [...] good bud wrote this EPIC blog post (with an EPIC-sized title) the other day titled “Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining....” It’s a doozy but well worth a [...] [...] good bud wrote this EPIC blog post (with an EPIC-sized title) the other day titled “Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining….” It’s a doozy but well worth a [...]

]]> By: Stephen Monday http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-236447 Stephen Monday Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:17:28 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-236447 "I judge no man, for the Word shall judge him in the last day." We must very well be in the last days, for it is His Spirit, and the Word that judgeth all things." Is it not written that "we shall judge the holy angels." We shall do exactly that - the Word is the judge, and "by His Spirit," is how it shall be done. Bless you ALL. "I judge no man, for the Word shall judge him in the last day." We must very well be in the last days, for it is His Spirit, and the Word that judgeth all things."
Is it not written that "we shall judge the holy angels." We shall do exactly that – the Word is
the judge, and "by His Spirit," is how it shall be done. Bless you ALL.

]]> By: Stephen Monday http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-236446 Stephen Monday Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:17:02 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-236446 What is even the point of trying to measure influence? (by the numbers) No-one has - or ever will have the same influence which Christ Jesus has (by His Spirit) today, because only HE was, and still is - the annointed one - who is worthy to open the book, and give the only correct interpretation of His Fathers Word. "Ye have but one teacher, and He is in heaven." "His sheep, knoweth his voice, and a stranger they will not follow." Thank the Holy Father for sending us - HIS Spirit. For HE himself said: "not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit." The One True Judge, is the Fathers Word - and only the spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit) can "judge righteous judgment." "For all judgement hath been committed unto the Son." And the Son still today - giveth it to whomsoever He will." What is even the point of trying to measure influence? (by the numbers)
No-one has – or ever will have the same influence which Christ Jesus has (by His Spirit)
today, because only HE was, and still is – the annointed one – who is worthy to open the book, and give the only correct interpretation of His Fathers Word. "Ye have but one teacher, and He is in heaven."
"His sheep, knoweth his voice, and a stranger they will not follow." Thank the Holy Father
for sending us – HIS Spirit. For HE himself said: "not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit." The One True Judge, is the Fathers Word – and only the spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit)
can "judge righteous judgment."
"For all judgement hath been committed unto the Son." And the Son still today – giveth it to whomsoever He will."

]]> By: bman http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-229128 bman Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:29:03 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-229128 Hahaha. Hahaha.

]]> By: 6 Things I Learned from Day 1 of #31DBBB « Christian Web Trends Blog http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-214214 6 Things I Learned from Day 1 of #31DBBB « Christian Web Trends Blog Tue, 04 May 2010 11:07:06 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-214214 [...] View Results  Loading ... Polls ArchivePopular Posts31DBBB - Day 1: The Elevator Pitch (188)Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining...Join Us and Become a Better Blogger in 31 Days (79)Would You Like to Succeed by Becoming a Great [...] [...] View Results  Loading … Polls ArchivePopular Posts31DBBB – Day 1: The Elevator Pitch (188)Why Willow Creek and Saddleback are Losing Influence While North Point and LifeChurch.tv are Gaining…Join Us and Become a Better Blogger in 31 Days (79)Would You Like to Succeed by Becoming a Great [...]

]]> By: Holiday At The Sea » Blog Archive » The Weekly Town Crier http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-208509 Holiday At The Sea » Blog Archive » The Weekly Town Crier Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:10:48 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-208509 [...] Read this piece examining why Lifechurch and Northpoint are now more “influential” than Saddleback and Willow Creek. [...] [...] Read this piece examining why Lifechurch and Northpoint are now more “influential” than Saddleback and Willow Creek. [...]

]]> By: uberVU - social comments http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-2/#comment-208089 uberVU - social comments Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:12:51 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-208089 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by OurChurchDotCom: Props to @ScottWilliams, @AndyStanley, @bobbygwald, @loswhit, @human3rror, @TerryStorch, @TonySteward mentioned in http://bit.ly/j717L... Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by OurChurchDotCom: Props to @ScottWilliams, @AndyStanley, @bobbygwald, @loswhit, @human3rror, @TerryStorch, @TonySteward mentioned in http://bit.ly/j717L...

]]> By: claytoncoates http://blog.ourchurch.com/2009/07/30/why-willow-creek-and-saddleback-are-losing-influence-while-north-point-and-lifechurchtv-are-gaining-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-207016 claytoncoates Sat, 03 Apr 2010 05:50:29 +0000 http://blog.ourchurch.com/?p=597#comment-207016 I agree with so much that you have to say Bill. Thanks for blazing the trail and creating systems and processes, curriculum and a care structure so that I can enhance and contextualize without have to re-create. It is funny to read this thread that is just 35 weeks old. Lifechurch.tv and Northpoint are already on the slide down in "influence"- not sure where we get the stats for the popularity contest. They were the churches of the 2000's and there are new churches and new pastors rising up in the 2010's. Funny how life is. Blogging and Tech teams will begin to dicipate in part off of church staffs as we have seen this trend emerge after the market crash and many meta-churches have decided that these guys were cool...but maybe not as needed as first thought. There are many things which are passing trends and at the end of the day we all agree that we do what we do, no matter the style, coolness, location, etc., because we want to see one more person embrace the life change that comes from knowing Jesus. I have never been a part of the WCA, I was on staff at S-Back, have friends at L-church and N-Point, and boy can we all learn from one another- its awesomeness being a part of the kingdom. God is so good- I agree with so much that you have to say Bill. Thanks for blazing the trail and creating systems and processes, curriculum and a care structure so that I can enhance and contextualize without have to re-create. It is funny to read this thread that is just 35 weeks old. Lifechurch.tv and Northpoint are already on the slide down in "influence"- not sure where we get the stats for the popularity contest. They were the churches of the 2000's and there are new churches and new pastors rising up in the 2010's. Funny how life is. Blogging and Tech teams will begin to dicipate in part off of church staffs as we have seen this trend emerge after the market crash and many meta-churches have decided that these guys were cool…but maybe not as needed as first thought. There are many things which are passing trends and at the end of the day we all agree that we do what we do, no matter the style, coolness, location, etc., because we want to see one more person embrace the life change that comes from knowing Jesus. I have never been a part of the WCA, I was on staff at S-Back, have friends at L-church and N-Point, and boy can we all learn from one another- its awesomeness being a part of the kingdom. God is so good-

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