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	<title>Comments on: Penthouse Attempts to Cash in with Christian Dating Site BigChurch</title>
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		<title>by: Jason</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-135493</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Imagine if the membership demand for BigChurch became larger than any of their other &quot;secular&quot; social networking sites.  The owners would then potentially see how great the demand is for God, and it might even lead them to seek him for themselves!  Who knows how God can work :-) All I know is that we live in a world filled with sin and we can't really separate ourselves from it until death or the 2nd coming of Christ.  Still, some might see using BigChurch as embracing sin instead of rejecting it with the will, and I understand why.  Though single, I've never considered online searching.  I would encourage each person to consider the entire kingdom with every decision made in life...and always remember that God created everything, and nothing is beyond him.  So is it possible for a Christian dating site to be a blessing even when non-christians are profitting? Why not?  Money is nothing to God, but he does long to fulfill our heart's desires (he put them there, after all) and he seeks every person like a lost sheep, so maybe this organization's involvement with a Christian population is meant to open their eyes and hearts as well?  Again I say, why not?  If I can see it, I know God can :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if the membership demand for BigChurch became larger than any of their other &#8220;secular&#8221; social networking sites.  The owners would then potentially see how great the demand is for God, and it might even lead them to seek him for themselves!  Who knows how God can work <img src='http://blog.ourchurch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  All I know is that we live in a world filled with sin and we can&#8217;t really separate ourselves from it until death or the 2nd coming of Christ.  Still, some might see using BigChurch as embracing sin instead of rejecting it with the will, and I understand why.  Though single, I&#8217;ve never considered online searching.  I would encourage each person to consider the entire kingdom with every decision made in life&#8230;and always remember that God created everything, and nothing is beyond him.  So is it possible for a Christian dating site to be a blessing even when non-christians are profitting? Why not?  Money is nothing to God, but he does long to fulfill our heart&#8217;s desires (he put them there, after all) and he seeks every person like a lost sheep, so maybe this organization&#8217;s involvement with a Christian population is meant to open their eyes and hearts as well?  Again I say, why not?  If I can see it, I know God can <img src='http://blog.ourchurch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: ELIZABETH</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-128183</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Up until very recently I was a member of Big Church.There are some really nice people on that site, and like myself none of us had any idea of its ownership.
Big Church is a horrible deception.
It is not simply a dating site,many are just seeking friends and fellowship.For anyone to find themselves on any website they have fallen prey to loneliness.
Christians are, contrary to the pious, still human.
Big Church lures with its name, and a &quot; fake umbrella&quot; of Christianity.
I know that  there are many B,.C. members who are still unaware of its true ownership; it is a huge website and Penthouse is well hidden.
There is more information available now on line than when I joined, and I am hopeful that there will be more yet.I am also hopeful that the truth will be spread within the site itself,as more and more members do become informed.
God will have His way, and that I believe is one opponent Penthouse have not 
considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up until very recently I was a member of Big Church.There are some really nice people on that site, and like myself none of us had any idea of its ownership.<br />
Big Church is a horrible deception.<br />
It is not simply a dating site,many are just seeking friends and fellowship.For anyone to find themselves on any website they have fallen prey to loneliness.<br />
Christians are, contrary to the pious, still human.<br />
Big Church lures with its name, and a &#8221; fake umbrella&#8221; of Christianity.<br />
I know that  there are many B,.C. members who are still unaware of its true ownership; it is a huge website and Penthouse is well hidden.<br />
There is more information available now on line than when I joined, and I am hopeful that there will be more yet.I am also hopeful that the truth will be spread within the site itself,as more and more members do become informed.<br />
God will have His way, and that I believe is one opponent Penthouse have not<br />
considered.
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127654</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127654</guid>
					<description>I don't have a problem with a Christian site being owned by a porn producer.  I have a problem with my porn producers owning Christian sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with a Christian site being owned by a porn producer.  I have a problem with my porn producers owning Christian sites.
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		<title>by: Population Statistic</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127574</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127574</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;BIGCHURCH IN THE PENTHOUSE SUITE...&lt;/strong&gt;

Odd couplings don&amp;#8217;t get much odder than that of online dating community BigChurch and porn-mill Penthouse Media Group. Via its acquisition of the FriendFinder Network of dating sites, PMG finds itself to be the corporate parent of BigChurch.
Busi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BIGCHURCH IN THE PENTHOUSE SUITE&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Odd couplings don&#8217;t get much odder than that of online dating community BigChurch and porn-mill Penthouse Media Group. Via its acquisition of the FriendFinder Network of dating sites, PMG finds itself to be the corporate parent of BigChurch.<br />
Busi&#8230;
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		<title>by: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127522</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It does not surprise me that these people are doing this.  The devil has his workers in many places and this is just one of the places he has placed them to get Christians involved.  There are so many people that are in the world now that are liars and thieves that it is unbelievable.  Christians need to do their research before they decide to go with anything and let God guide them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not surprise me that these people are doing this.  The devil has his workers in many places and this is just one of the places he has placed them to get Christians involved.  There are so many people that are in the world now that are liars and thieves that it is unbelievable.  Christians need to do their research before they decide to go with anything and let God guide them.
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		<title>by: Paul Steinbrueck</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127338</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 10:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127338</guid>
					<description>Derlin, you're right.  I've corrected the mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derlin, you&#8217;re right.  I&#8217;ve corrected the mistake.
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		<title>by: Derlin</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127318</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127318</guid>
					<description>Was this a typo?

&quot;In an interview published yesterday on WebProWorld, Playboy Media Group CEO Marc Bell didn’t seem to see any incongruence saying it was like owning two separate businesses.&quot;  

I think &quot;Playboy&quot; should be &quot;Penthouse&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this a typo?</p>
<p>&#8220;In an interview published yesterday on WebProWorld, Playboy Media Group CEO Marc Bell didn’t seem to see any incongruence saying it was like owning two separate businesses.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I think &#8220;Playboy&#8221; should be &#8220;Penthouse&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Linda</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127067</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have just read through the list of comments concerning this penthouse owned dating site.  When I was recently in Israel, on a ministry tour there were certain sites that we did not go to because the money raised from visiting those site was used by the PLO to bring terrorist activities against Israel.  Because I love Israel, and because God promises blessings to those who love, and curses to those who hate Israel, I  would not fund anything that would come against that nation which God loves.

Likewise, though one's curiosity may get the better of them to 'tour' the land of 'christian dating'  we must remember, that we are stewarts over what God has entrusted to us.  Even though we cannot control what others do, we can control what we contribute to, and participate.  No christian should support any business, at any level, that supports the sensual flesh markets that contribute to the destruction of so many homes and marriages.  Do not make an alliance with one who is involved in whoredom, no matter how pretty the dress is that they put on it.  Remember the whore of Babylon!!  The Lord commanded his people to come out of her, and to be separate!!  

Let us not fall to gimmicks to support the ungodly.  If you desire a mate, seek the Lord.  He promises to direct the steps of the righteous.  He knows your hearts desire.  He alone knows what will satify.  In light of this why would we want to seek the help of the ungodly to help us find a mate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read through the list of comments concerning this penthouse owned dating site.  When I was recently in Israel, on a ministry tour there were certain sites that we did not go to because the money raised from visiting those site was used by the PLO to bring terrorist activities against Israel.  Because I love Israel, and because God promises blessings to those who love, and curses to those who hate Israel, I  would not fund anything that would come against that nation which God loves.</p>
<p>Likewise, though one&#8217;s curiosity may get the better of them to &#8216;tour&#8217; the land of &#8216;christian dating&#8217;  we must remember, that we are stewarts over what God has entrusted to us.  Even though we cannot control what others do, we can control what we contribute to, and participate.  No christian should support any business, at any level, that supports the sensual flesh markets that contribute to the destruction of so many homes and marriages.  Do not make an alliance with one who is involved in whoredom, no matter how pretty the dress is that they put on it.  Remember the whore of Babylon!!  The Lord commanded his people to come out of her, and to be separate!!  </p>
<p>Let us not fall to gimmicks to support the ungodly.  If you desire a mate, seek the Lord.  He promises to direct the steps of the righteous.  He knows your hearts desire.  He alone knows what will satify.  In light of this why would we want to seek the help of the ungodly to help us find a mate?
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		<title>by: DONALD PAULSON</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127066</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>there is something wrong when you have to go a dateing service to find a mate  what they need to do is pray and leave it in the hands of GOD, i did and married my wife from where i went to church. and we have been married for 21 years.

next when a place sells it site to a porn ring there is something wrong there,because we are in the world does not mean we have to act like the world
this sends a wrong sign to are youth, and that is its all right to go to a porn site to find a mate,  GOD FORBID THAT. 

and to the person who said we need to take the log out of our eyes, you better wake up AND SMELL THE AIR  WE AS BORN AGAIN BELEIVERS OF JESUS CHRIST,  are to watch where we go and how we act, and what we look at, and if its porn, look out cause no matter how fine it looks on the outside its hell on the inside,

thats how people get hooked on those site it looks inesent, but its harmfull.

we need to pray that it closes up fast,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is something wrong when you have to go a dateing service to find a mate  what they need to do is pray and leave it in the hands of GOD, i did and married my wife from where i went to church. and we have been married for 21 years.</p>
<p>next when a place sells it site to a porn ring there is something wrong there,because we are in the world does not mean we have to act like the world<br />
this sends a wrong sign to are youth, and that is its all right to go to a porn site to find a mate,  GOD FORBID THAT. </p>
<p>and to the person who said we need to take the log out of our eyes, you better wake up AND SMELL THE AIR  WE AS BORN AGAIN BELEIVERS OF JESUS CHRIST,  are to watch where we go and how we act, and what we look at, and if its porn, look out cause no matter how fine it looks on the outside its hell on the inside,</p>
<p>thats how people get hooked on those site it looks inesent, but its harmfull.</p>
<p>we need to pray that it closes up fast,
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		<title>by: stevie</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2008/05/16/penthouse-attempts-to-cash-in-with-christian-dating-site-bigchurch/#comment-127051</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.(1Cor:9-10) 
&quot;What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 
God will judge those outside&quot;(1Cor.5:12-13)

No christian who is a part of Big Church is in the dark as to the ownership of the site. Periodically it is brought to the attention of the members one to another, some leave according to their conscience, others stay.

We know and understand that the church is not a building, but rather is made up of those who fill the building. It dosen`t really matter who owns the building, in-fact, is it not true that the darker the building, the greater the need for the light. Jesus was criticised for eating with tax collectors and sinners.
A friend of mine planted a church in a local pub because it was closed on a Sunday, and God Blessed the work. 
I myself was part of a church plant who met in the hall of our local communist group. In the end they gave us money and asked us to take their kids on vacation.

Speaking as an ex-member of BC, the reason I left, as do most, was not because of the sinful affiliations of the sight, but rather, because of the way Christians treat one another, and their inability to get along due to doctrinal differences, and I find that far more disturbing.
 Maybe we should take the log out of our own eye before we attempt to remove the speck from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.(1Cor:9-10)<br />
&#8220;What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?<br />
God will judge those outside&#8221;(1Cor.5:12-13)</p>
<p>No christian who is a part of Big Church is in the dark as to the ownership of the site. Periodically it is brought to the attention of the members one to another, some leave according to their conscience, others stay.</p>
<p>We know and understand that the church is not a building, but rather is made up of those who fill the building. It dosen`t really matter who owns the building, in-fact, is it not true that the darker the building, the greater the need for the light. Jesus was criticised for eating with tax collectors and sinners.<br />
A friend of mine planted a church in a local pub because it was closed on a Sunday, and God Blessed the work.<br />
I myself was part of a church plant who met in the hall of our local communist group. In the end they gave us money and asked us to take their kids on vacation.</p>
<p>Speaking as an ex-member of BC, the reason I left, as do most, was not because of the sinful affiliations of the sight, but rather, because of the way Christians treat one another, and their inability to get along due to doctrinal differences, and I find that far more disturbing.<br />
 Maybe we should take the log out of our own eye before we attempt to remove the speck from others.
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