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		<title>By: Jim and Shirley Mae Fry</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim and Shirley Mae Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 18:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subject: Re: [OCC Blog] Survey Says...  Posted by Jim &amp; Shirley Mae 
 

Message:  I didn&#039;t intend to respond to what you reported re: 3 things and I can 
only now remember the first one, which was the electronic church 
doesn&#039;t take the place of church.

This is something I do not agree with...many of us were led away from 
church building&#039;s and into the realization that each child of God is 
God&#039;s temple...in us the fullness of The Godhead dwells...and when 2 or 
3 of us gather, no matter where...yes even in cyberspace...Christ JESUS 
IS in the midst of us.

God does not inhabit building&#039;s made by hand...HE dwells in man...and 
we see the fellowship of believers is usually not being done according 
to Paul&#039;s pattern of church clearly revealed in 1 Corinthians 12 t0 
14...seldom do we see The Spirit of God in charge of church 
fellowship...and this is sad indeed, but The Word reveals...STRAIGHT is 
the gate...narrow the way...and few there be that find it...

....so dear one, many are sitting in &quot;The True Olive Tree,&quot; and they are 
not grafted in...during the shaking which is taking place according to 
Hebrews 12...they will be &quot;shaken out&quot; because what can be shaken will 
be shaken so what remains, is UN-shakable.

Ephesians 4:11-16 reveal the TRUE Body of Christ, and verses 16, 17, 
reveal those who are not part of us, yet they thought they were...sadly 
they will not hear COME UP HITHER...

Let none of us be counted in that number.

God bless you as you seek diligently to know who HE IS...for HE IS NOT 
as people think HE IS...HE IS more than the man in the songs we 
sing...HE IS more than the one most run to when in trouble...HE IS more 
than the human mind can fathom...but HE IS MY FATHER...and the Father 
of all those who choose to believe in the completed work His Son did at 
The Cross 2000 years ago, that now allows those who believe to become 
adopted into God&#039;s family as a MUCH loved child...where our Father 
takes care of us, and we in faith do not doubt and waver that in every 
thing...no matter what it is...HE WILL work things out for our 
good...when we have need, He meets the need...we don&#039;t have to beg...we 
just ASK...knowing by faith, HE WILL meet the need.

For us HE always does SINCE we discovered who HE IS and WHO WE ARE IN 
HIM.

Resting In Him...abiding in His love and grace...
Jim and Shirley Mae Fry
www.inasmuch.injesus.com
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/AlmostTime/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject: Re: [OCC Blog] Survey Says&#8230;  Posted by Jim &amp; Shirley Mae </p>
<p>Message:  I didn&#8217;t intend to respond to what you reported re: 3 things and I can<br />
only now remember the first one, which was the electronic church<br />
doesn&#8217;t take the place of church.</p>
<p>This is something I do not agree with&#8230;many of us were led away from<br />
church building&#8217;s and into the realization that each child of God is<br />
God&#8217;s temple&#8230;in us the fullness of The Godhead dwells&#8230;and when 2 or<br />
3 of us gather, no matter where&#8230;yes even in cyberspace&#8230;Christ JESUS<br />
IS in the midst of us.</p>
<p>God does not inhabit building&#8217;s made by hand&#8230;HE dwells in man&#8230;and<br />
we see the fellowship of believers is usually not being done according<br />
to Paul&#8217;s pattern of church clearly revealed in 1 Corinthians 12 t0<br />
14&#8230;seldom do we see The Spirit of God in charge of church<br />
fellowship&#8230;and this is sad indeed, but The Word reveals&#8230;STRAIGHT is<br />
the gate&#8230;narrow the way&#8230;and few there be that find it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;.so dear one, many are sitting in &#8220;The True Olive Tree,&#8221; and they are<br />
not grafted in&#8230;during the shaking which is taking place according to<br />
Hebrews 12&#8230;they will be &#8220;shaken out&#8221; because what can be shaken will<br />
be shaken so what remains, is UN-shakable.</p>
<p>Ephesians 4:11-16 reveal the TRUE Body of Christ, and verses 16, 17,<br />
reveal those who are not part of us, yet they thought they were&#8230;sadly<br />
they will not hear COME UP HITHER&#8230;</p>
<p>Let none of us be counted in that number.</p>
<p>God bless you as you seek diligently to know who HE IS&#8230;for HE IS NOT<br />
as people think HE IS&#8230;HE IS more than the man in the songs we<br />
sing&#8230;HE IS more than the one most run to when in trouble&#8230;HE IS more<br />
than the human mind can fathom&#8230;but HE IS MY FATHER&#8230;and the Father<br />
of all those who choose to believe in the completed work His Son did at<br />
The Cross 2000 years ago, that now allows those who believe to become<br />
adopted into God&#8217;s family as a MUCH loved child&#8230;where our Father<br />
takes care of us, and we in faith do not doubt and waver that in every<br />
thing&#8230;no matter what it is&#8230;HE WILL work things out for our<br />
good&#8230;when we have need, He meets the need&#8230;we don&#8217;t have to beg&#8230;we<br />
just ASK&#8230;knowing by faith, HE WILL meet the need.</p>
<p>For us HE always does SINCE we discovered who HE IS and WHO WE ARE IN<br />
HIM.</p>
<p>Resting In Him&#8230;abiding in His love and grace&#8230;<br />
Jim and Shirley Mae Fry<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.inasmuch.injesus.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a target="_blank" href='http://www.inasmuch.injesus.com'>http://www.inasmuch.injesus.com</a><br />
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		<title>By: Paul Steinbrueck</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Steinbrueck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil and Nick, I&#039;ve unsubscribed you both.  It is pretty simple to unsubscribe from the email distribution at http://devotions.ourchurch.com/subscribe.php

Nick, addressing your comment:

&gt;I have been listed with a modest website on your service and have had precious few hits over a time of 4 years or so. Is that normal?

It depends what you&#039;ve done to reach out to others.  You can&#039;t simply build a website and expect people to visit.  You have to register it in search engines, promote it in forums, and exchange links with similar sites among other things.  I would encourage you to check out our site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.12stepstoasuccessfulwebsite.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;12 Steps to a Successful Website&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil and Nick, I&#8217;ve unsubscribed you both.  It is pretty simple to unsubscribe from the email distribution at <a target="_blank" href="http://devotions.ourchurch.com/subscribe.php" rel="nofollow"></a><a target="_blank" href='http://devotions.ourchurch.com/subscribe.php'>http://devotions.ourchurch.com/subscribe.php</a></p>
<p>Nick, addressing your comment:</p>
<p>>I have been listed with a modest website on your service and have had precious few hits over a time of 4 years or so. Is that normal?</p>
<p>It depends what you&#8217;ve done to reach out to others.  You can&#8217;t simply build a website and expect people to visit.  You have to register it in search engines, promote it in forums, and exchange links with similar sites among other things.  I would encourage you to check out our site <a target="_blank" href="http://www.12stepstoasuccessfulwebsite.com" rel="nofollow">12 Steps to a Successful Website</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: WebEvangelist@gmail.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>WebEvangelist@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,
This was a strategic, informative, and helpful post on Internet Evangelism - thanks!

Scott Reese

www.internetminister.org

PS- I answered your questions on my blog:
&quot;Adventures of a Web Evangelist&quot;

http://webevangelist.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,<br />
This was a strategic, informative, and helpful post on Internet Evangelism &#8211; thanks!</p>
<p>Scott Reese</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.internetminister.org" rel="nofollow"></a><a target="_blank" href='http://www.internetminister.org'>http://www.internetminister.org</a></p>
<p>PS- I answered your questions on my blog:<br />
&#8220;Adventures of a Web Evangelist&#8221;</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://webevangelist.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a target="_blank" href='http://webevangelist.blogspot.com'>http://webevangelist.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: nick askew</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>nick askew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your unsubscribe does not seem to be user friendly.  Please unsubscribe.  Actually I thought I already done so. 
A comment might be in order here.  I have been listed with a modest website on your service and have had precious few hits over a time of 4 years or so.  Is that normal?  
                                                                 Blessings, Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your unsubscribe does not seem to be user friendly.  Please unsubscribe.  Actually I thought I already done so.<br />
A comment might be in order here.  I have been listed with a modest website on your service and have had precious few hits over a time of 4 years or so.  Is that normal?<br />
                                                                 Blessings, Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Burgos</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Burgos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remove me from your mailing list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remove me from your mailing list.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Steinbrueck</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Steinbrueck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hikebymyside,

I realize that some people find that word offensive.  If it were my site, that&#039;s not the title I would choose either.  But I&#039;m just the messenger here.  If you don&#039;t like it, you can take it up with them or just choose not to visit the site.

Anyone who cares can read their explanation for the title.  I included it in the article, but I&#039;ll post it here as well:

http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2005/03/why_we_use_suck.html

That&#039;s said, the content of the articles is relevant to what we&#039;re talking about here, so let&#039;s try to stay on the topic of Web 2.0 and church websites.  Thanks.

- Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hikebymyside,</p>
<p>I realize that some people find that word offensive.  If it were my site, that&#8217;s not the title I would choose either.  But I&#8217;m just the messenger here.  If you don&#8217;t like it, you can take it up with them or just choose not to visit the site.</p>
<p>Anyone who cares can read their explanation for the title.  I included it in the article, but I&#8217;ll post it here as well:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2005/03/why_we_use_suck.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a target="_blank" href='http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2005/03/why_we_use_suck.html'>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2005/03/why_we_use_suck.html</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s said, the content of the articles is relevant to what we&#8217;re talking about here, so let&#8217;s try to stay on the topic of Web 2.0 and church websites.  Thanks.</p>
<p>- Paul</p>
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		<title>By: hikebymyside</title>
		<link>http://blog.ourchurch.com/2006/04/07/16/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>hikebymyside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Steinbrueck, 
Thank you for your mailing this morning regarding your blog archives. I am appalled that you would consider using a word such as &quot;s....&quot;.  Maybe you assume that speaking in this manner,  will reach certain people.  This word may not be a swear word, and there is no reason to say it is &quot;un-Christian&quot;, but you are certainly lowering your standards. There is a level of respect being lost in this society and we should not be helping it along. I do not allow this word in my househould unless it refers to a straw, and I certainly would not visit a blog site with this word in the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Steinbrueck,<br />
Thank you for your mailing this morning regarding your blog archives. I am appalled that you would consider using a word such as &#8220;s&#8230;.&#8221;.  Maybe you assume that speaking in this manner,  will reach certain people.  This word may not be a swear word, and there is no reason to say it is &#8220;un-Christian&#8221;, but you are certainly lowering your standards. There is a level of respect being lost in this society and we should not be helping it along. I do not allow this word in my househould unless it refers to a straw, and I certainly would not visit a blog site with this word in the title.</p>
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